druboyks
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Post by druboyks on Oct 15, 2009 1:47:57 GMT
Here is a little something to mull over: I have a theory/belief that everything in our universe "vibrates" at a certain "frequency." Therefore, would it not stand to reason that if you pull out something or someone out of our universe and place it/him/her in another universe, you would in fact get something out of place. Now, here is the question, would it then be possible for such an activity to either be noticed or go un-noticed? In otherwords, would said person or thing "feel out of place" or "just not right" in a parallel universe? I am just hypothesising here.
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Post by Tanooki on Oct 15, 2009 11:52:15 GMT
Sorry, don't think so, I don't belive in parallel universe or such things... looks too nonsense, altought this week in the tv the showed an interview with a guy that worked as a 'nurse' and he said that he saved an alien and the alien said (are you understanding?) he wa an hume of the future, well it all looks so confused and fake to me...
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Post by Kyonko on Oct 15, 2009 18:05:40 GMT
I see someone's been reading up on the 'Super String Theory'. Parellel worlds have been scientifically proven via the theory and therefore do exist. Though long before this, Einstein himself had theorized of an infinite ammount of alternate realities where every possible change can exist. After all time and space is not a single linear event, as all causalities do create a change in the time space continuem creating ripples of effect. I forget who, but someone once theorized that the reason people experience deja vu is because we come to a point in time space where we run side by side at points with other time spaces, so when both time spaces version of yourself at his point are subjected to the same thing at the same time, both you's would have deja vu due to the proximity in time space to oneself as ones mental wave length would in fact resonate with ones own wavelength should it be mirriored. This gets off into psychic and other fields there... So back to the prime topic. A prime example of parellel dimensions truelly existing is anti-matter. Anti-matter is matter of the opposite polarity. Anti-Matter does not naturally exist in our dimension, we have to be creative in ways to create it. Now on to the point of feeling out of place, that is actually rather close to a current theory about people being able to fall through time space. In fact there is several accounts of said things happening before in our world. Here is one true story of said event possibly occuring, "One of the most uncanny stories I have ever come across concerns the baffling disappearance of a Canadian farmer's son, 12-year-old Micheal Norton, on a November morning over 60 years ago. The hunt for the missing child went on for years, because althought he disappeared physically, both his parents and hundreds of investigators all hear Micheal's voice---calling faintly from the same few square feet of ground.
On the day it happend, Micheal overslept. When he rushed down to breakfast, he was seen by his father and mother, an aunt, and two farm workers. A few minutes later his mother watched him trudge towards the cow shed. She had no way of knowing that neither she nor anybody else would ever see the boy again.
Some hours later, wondering about his absence, Ruth Norton called Micheal to come back to the house or he would be late for school. Micheal's younger brother and sister were impatiently waiting for him to take them into the village.
There was no answer to Mrs. Norton's call and, with some irritation, her husband put on his boots and went out to fetch the boy. When he entered the barn, it was empty. The stool and bucket were there, the latter half full of milk. Micheal had obviously stopped in the middle of his work--but there was no sign of him.
Mr.Norton searched the barn. He found nothing. He called his family and workmen and they combed the farm and its environs. There was no trace of the boy.
Seriously alarmed, Mr. Norton drove int the nearby township of Burtons Falls and alerted the police. A few hours later, the police arrived at the farm with a bloodhound, which was given Micheal's scent. The animal's keen nose soon detected Micheal's trail. It led from the kitchen door into the barn and then out of the barn again, straight into the open south pasture, a field visible from both the house and the nearby road.
Then the bloodhound, which had been tugging exciredly at the leash, suddenly stopped in it's tracks. They were in the middle of the pasture, several dozen yards from the father boundary. Surprisedm the handler urged the dog on, but the animal just whined. The trail had disappeared!
What happend? No one ever found out. Search parties were organized and other tracker dogs brought, but none of them ever uncovered a hint of the boy's movements after he had stood in the middle of the field. Micheal Norton had litterally disappeared into thin air!
A few nights later, when hope of finding their son alive was fading, the Norton's were overjoyed to hear a voice outside. It was Michael's, and it called one word that no other boy would call in that place: "Mum!"
They rushed outside, shouting with relief, and then stopped. There was no one there! The voice called again, "Mum!" It was Michael, both were certain of that. But they searched and searched and found nothing. They called his name and he didn't answer. Half an hour later, as they stood in the farmyard, peering hopelessly into the dark, they heard him again: "Mum," and this time he clearly added, "Where are you?"
Many people came to the little farm, and many of them heard the lost voice as it called and pleaded for help. One of the most logical theories that was put forth suggested that he had tumbled into an underground river, an old well, or simply a crack in the ground. But this idea was eventually discarded when experts studied the terrain. A primitive form of aerial photography was also used, hoping to pinpoint a fault in the field. But there was no evidence to suggest such a thing.
For weeks, the frantic parents and others heard the disembodied voice of Micheal Norton, which was growing fainter as the days passed. It seemed that he was in a thick mist, but quite free to move. Then, after a while, he was heard no more.
Is it possible that some unknown physical law opened a "gap" in time, through which Micheal fell or was pulled? And that such a suspension of the normal laws would be visible to the human eye, maybe as a "mist," or some other alteration of the light?
Might it be this disturbance that Micheal saw? Might he have run across the field to see for himself, and been swallowed up in the middle of the pasture, which was, for a brief moment, the "eye" in the needle of time?" All in all, humans in general like to feel like we can understand and know all about the micro and macrocosm's in which we exist. But there is far to many unexplained phenomena, events, and things that happen that litterally defy all precepts of certanty and logic. So to deny any possibility is to deny reality, which is an endless unknown phenomenon in it's own right.
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Post by druboyks on Oct 15, 2009 18:36:29 GMT
I see someone's been reading up on the 'Super String Theory'. Parellel worlds have been scientifically proven via the theory and therefore do exist. Though long before this, Einstein himself had theorized of an infinite ammount of alternate realities where every possible change can exist. After all time and space is not a single linear event, as all causalities do create a change in the time space continuem creating ripples of effect. I forget who, but someone once theorized that the reason people experience deja vu is because we come to a point in time space where we run side by side at points with other time spaces, so when both time spaces version of yourself at his point are subjected to the same thing at the same time, both you's would have deja vu due to the proximity in time space to oneself as ones mental wave length would in fact resonate with ones own wavelength should it be mirriored. This gets off into psychic and other fields there... So back to the prime topic. Re: Deja vu Wow, never heard that one before. It is rather interesting and something that I would have never thought of on my own in a million, million years. That is amazing! Re: Reading the string theory yeah, I guess that is one way of putting it. I read about it in a book once...the subject fascinated me so that I just dreamed up this notion of feeling out of place on my own. I have no way to test it or even others had this same thought. It's not like I read these sorts of things all the time (see my post about "Myth, legends, and superstitions"). However, I still think about it from time-to-time.
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Post by Tanooki on Oct 16, 2009 11:48:15 GMT
Seems too senseless to me.
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Post by Kyonko on Oct 16, 2009 18:04:11 GMT
Seems too senseless to me. Sense is in the eye of the beholder. Capurnicus, Galleleo, Einstein, Eddison, and Von Braun, to name just a few examples. They were all thought to be mad, daft, senseles, and insane. All their theories, discoveries, etc. was considered sensless mumbo jumbo for most if not all their lives. It was only a lot later that the majority of them actually gain any credit and prooven right. So to claim things are senseless, is just saying that you just can not understand the truths and facts that exist pointing to such proofs.
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Post by Archer on Oct 17, 2009 5:45:57 GMT
Disk is right on this one.Many who were thought to be crazy ended up being remembered in history as very important persons.Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it does not makes sense, Tanooki.Perhaps ATM, no one can prove anything yet but sooner or later, it will be proved by someone, somehow.Be it cause of an accident or anything.
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Post by michael472 on Oct 18, 2009 10:21:46 GMT
If anything is possible, then obviously it is possible that parallel worlds do NOT exist...humans think they know everything IMO, not just teenagers...my opinion on parallel worlds is that sure, it is a possibility. but, I don't see why it matters... I have to go...my dad is talking about how he is going to abuse me later on if I don't...
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Post by Kyonko on Oct 18, 2009 19:28:01 GMT
The reason it matters is the possiblity of crossing and or retrieving things from parellel dimensions. The possibility that you loose someone you love in one dimension doesn't mean that person is dead in another. The possibility of a dimension having technology far superior to our own is also a possibility. I think an interesting way to look at it, borrows a part of Hitman Reborn. In that Byakuran is able to connect with his other selves and learn all there is to learn and know all there is to know by doing this. Imagine if we all could do the same?
Personally though, the ability to cross dimensions could allow us to actually travel through space at a far faster rate than we can currently invision. As it requires time space displacement to necesitate the transition from one plane of reality to the next via a powerfull gravity tear. In fact, I believe if we were to try and gain the ability to cross we would in fact better our own technologies to reach this ideal. It would be similar to how Star Trek inspired the creation of Cellphones, etc.
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Post by michael472 on Oct 18, 2009 23:51:13 GMT
Well, there is also the possibility that they have already died in a parallel dimension(topic says worlds, w/e)
You have good points, but...I have trouble believing in parallel worlds/dimensions. I just don't see how a mirror of our dimension would exist...I see why we should want them to exist...what would make the same people fall in love with and make them have the same child?..
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Post by Archer on Oct 19, 2009 14:29:15 GMT
Think easy.Maybe you're a god in one dimension, maybe you're the devil in another and here you're just Nobodu xD and last but not least you maybe Somebody.
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Post by michael472 on Oct 19, 2009 14:40:18 GMT
But when I think about it, I may not exist in another dimension. I could end up being the last human born in another. idk? That is, if they exist. It's a possibility, not a fact. (most things are that way...)
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Post by Kyonko on Oct 19, 2009 17:03:22 GMT
Well, there is also the possibility that they have already died in a parallel dimension(topic says worlds, w/e) You have good points, but...I have trouble believing in parallel worlds/dimensions. I just don't see how a mirror of our dimension would exist...I see why we should want them to exist...what would make the same people fall in love with and make them have the same child?.. Modern Science has already prooven their existence with the Superstring Theory. So why you are having trouble when with our currently level of science we have already prooven the existence of alternate dimensions? Parellel worlds are after all, Earth's on a different plane of reality in a parellel dimension. So speaking of parellel worlds involves the quantification of the Superstring Theory to expound on the relevance and existence of these alternate existences in which many possible outcomes may have occured. For more information on the Superstring Theory I provide you with this nice link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstring_theoryAs the link explains, the Superstring has so far prooven the existence of up to ten different dimensions. So the existence of such possibilities does solidly exist with in the relms of our modern science. Though I could go off on the tangent of why people believe in the divine when there isn't much 'proof' by modern sciences as a parellel of it's own to the disbelief in alternate realities. While, one has little support in modern sciences, it is held true through most of the world. The other, prooven by modern sciences is still disbelieved... Or so it seems. Logically this makes no sense as people can get by fine believeing in something that has scientifically little proof, yet deny things that do have scientific proof. I suppose as I said earlier, it's in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by michael472 on Oct 20, 2009 3:15:47 GMT
well, that does say "Superstring theory is an attempt to explain"...
I just don't have much faith in science...plenty of times we discover that what we used to think was wrong...I guess we may find out in the future...as for now I believe its very possible, but...I will only believe it to be a fact once there is solid proof, not just theories... (and I'm also a person who likes to argue against things, I've noticed.)
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Post by Archer on Oct 20, 2009 12:48:25 GMT
Nobo, my friend, even though you say you don't believe in science, almost everything you do is related to it and is made possible because of it.For example, the TV that you adore so much, the one thing that enables you to play with the XBL is powered by electricity.It is because of science that there is a TV and the XBL.Besides that, there is also the laptop, computer and more electrical appliances.
Furthermore, there's things like soap, salt, sugar and even milk.Most food are preserved using scientific methods so Nobo, you actually like science very much xD in fact you can't leave science.
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